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Thursday, 3 May 2012

He has now learnt to spell my name

His correct spelling of my surname must be progress of a sort (see below). I have spent years campaigning, privately and publicly, for a negotiated two-state solution that would bring peace, justice and security to Palestinians and Israelis alike. Such a negotiated two-state solution is not only right in itself, but also happens to be Liberal Democrat party policy. According to Mr Ali, my consistent support for this policy amounts to my "hiding behind clever little words" and is a "lie". What would be my motivation for telling such a lie - what would I get out of it? Actually, Andi, I tell the truth about what my opinions are. If I thought something else, I'd say something else. It saddens me that Andi Ali cannot accept that our political differences might arise from an honest difference of opinion.
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From: Andi Ali <noreply-comment@blogger.com>
Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 14:35:19 +0000
To: <matthew.harris@hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: [Matthew Harris] New comment on Gareth Epps censors me on Tonge.

Andi Ali has left a new comment on your post "Gareth Epps censors me on Tonge":

Don't try and hide behind clever little words Harris. The Lib Dems friends of Israel have never been in favour of a Palastinian state, never will be in favour, and its said you have to lie and pretend otherwise.



Posted by Andi Ali to Matthew Harris at 3 May 2012 15:35

8 comments:

  1. As promise, here is an example of Ludford doing what she does best. Tell everybody she is in favour of a Palastinian state while of course voting against a motion to support santions against Israel for its occupation of that state... http://www.sarahludfordmep.org.uk/node/1841

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    1. Thanks, Andi, I just looked at that piece from Sarah Ludford that you have linked to. It's worth a look in full, so here it is below.

      Israel boycott counter-productive

      Wednesday 17 April 2002

      Baroness Sarah Ludford Liberal Democrat MEP for London and member of Liberal Democrat Friends of Israel is due on Wednesday April 17th to attend the 54th Independence Day anniversary celebrations in She will convey to Ambassador Harry Kney-Tal her disgust at Palestinian suicide bombings and her commiseration with the bereaved families.
      Brussels at the invitation of the Israeli ambassador to the EU.


      Sarah Ludford who did not support the European Parliament resolution on the Middle East last week said:

      "I abstained because although I agreed with most of its contents I opposed its backing for trade sanctions against Israel and a rupture of the EU Association Agreement. I believe it is counter-productive to close channels of communication."

      "But that also means I feel able and obliged as a friend of Israel to express directly to the Ambassador my opposition to the conduct of military operations which breaks international humanitarian law in unnecessary civilian deaths obstructing relief agencies or excluding journalists. I wish to ask especially about the situation in the Jenin camp which arouses profound disquiet. I urge Israel to allow an independent investigation by its own courts or the UN".

      "As the only liberal democracy in the region Israel must respect the rule of law and safeguard its treasured reputation which the actions of the Sharon government risk besmirching. While I fully recognise Israel's right to take legitimate action against terrorism I emphasise that the only long-term security lies in a political settlement comprising two states within recognised borders."

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    2. In my cutting and pasting of that piece from Sarah Ludford, it got scrambled up and out of order! Here it is again:

      Israel boycott counter-productive

      Wednesday 17 April 2002

      Baroness Sarah Ludford Liberal Democrat MEP for London and member of Liberal Democrat Friends of Israel is due on Wednesday April 17th to attend the 54th Independence Day anniversary celebrations in Brussels at the invitation of the Israeli ambassador to the EU.

      She will convey to Ambassador Harry Kney-Tal her disgust at Palestinian suicide bombings and her commiseration with the bereaved families.

      Sarah Ludford who did not support the European Parliament resolution on the Middle East last week said:

      "I abstained because although I agreed with most of its contents I opposed its backing for trade sanctions against Israel and a rupture of the EU Association Agreement. I believe it is counter-productive to close channels of communication."

      "But that also means I feel able and obliged as a friend of Israel to express directly to the Ambassador my opposition to the conduct of military operations which breaks international humanitarian law in unnecessary civilian deaths obstructing relief agencies or excluding journalists. I wish to ask especially about the situation in the Jenin camp which arouses profound disquiet. I urge Israel to allow an independent investigation by its own courts or the UN".

      "As the only liberal democracy in the region Israel must respect the rule of law and safeguard its treasured reputation which the actions of the Sharon government risk besmirching. While I fully recognise Israel's right to take legitimate action against terrorism I emphasise that the only long-term security lies in a political settlement comprising two states within recognised borders."

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  2. In other words, Ludford did not vote for santions against Israel. Like I said, Ludford did not vote for santions against Israel.....no wonder the Israeli Ambassador invited her for tea.

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    1. Why should Sarah Ludford MEP have "voted for sanctions". Sarah is a Liberal Democrat. Since when has it been Liberal Democrat party policy to impose sanctions on Israel?

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  3. Harris,
    go here. http://www.iiea.com/blogosphere/recognition-of-a-palestinian-state

    Then click on letter. As you see, Ludford did sign a letter urging the EU Foreign Minister not to vote for a Palastinian state at the UN in Septemeber - dispite claiming she was in favour. Like I said, what she says and what she does is two diffrent things.

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    1. Thanks, Andi, I have frequently posted that letter in full myself on this site, including in response to your very own comments! It is included in full below.

      It is an excellent letter (sent to Baroness Ashton in July 2011) in which the signatories reiterate their strong commitment to a two-state solution and the creation of a Palestinian state.

      It is precisely because they favour the creation of a Palestinian state that these MEPs opposed a Palestinian unilateral declaration of statehood at the UN - because they thought that such a declaration would make it less likely (not more likely) that there will be a Palestinian state.

      By the way, could you please stop addressing me as "Harris" in that peremptory, declamatory fashion? Harris is my surname; my first name is Matthew. You are welcome to call me Matthew.

      Here is the letter in full:

      We are members of the European Parliament from across the political spectrum, all united in the conviction
      that only a negotiated two-state solution can end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It is precisely because we believe in the justness of the Palestinian cause that we urge them to refrain from seeking UN recognition of a unilaterally declared state, a counterproductive step we fear could set back the chances for peace. Instead, Palestinians and Israelis
      should immediately resume negotiations.

      Past agreements between the parties and international mediators clearly reject unilateral actions. The Oslo
      Accords, the basis of Israeli-Palestinian reconciliation, state that “Neither side shall initiate or take any step that will change the status of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip pending the outcome of the permanent status negotiations.”

      Likewise, the Quartet’s Road Map calls for a negotiated solution. Just this February, the Quartet, which includes the EU, said that it “strongly raffirms that unilateral actions by either party cannot prejudge the outcome of negotiations and will not be recognized by the international community.”

      The European Council has also repeatedly stressed the need for a negotiated two-state solution, urging in December “all parties to refrain from provocative
      unilateral actions,” and reiterating in May that “negotiations are the best way forward.”

      Both sides will have to make difficult compromises to reach an agreement. Palestinian unilateralism at the UN would erode the room for such compromises by committing current and future Palestinians to non-negotiated positions. A unilateral move will not bring reconciliation; it will not bring stability; it will not bring peace. Rather, it will most likely fell the peace process for good. The prospect of UN recognition also raises unrealistic expectations among Palestinians that they soon will have a sovereign state. But a UN vote will not change the reality on the ground and thus disappoint many Palestinians. Such disappointment has in the past often ignited new violence.

      We, members of the European Parliament, therefore urge you, Lady Ashton, as well as the governments of the 27 EU member states, to discourage unilateral Palestinian efforts to attain UN recognition. Only an immediate return to negotiations — for which pressure must be exerted on all parties — can save the peace process.

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  4. Like I said, Harris. Ludford name on the letter shows she was asking or rather begging Ashton not to support the Palestinian bid for statehood - at the same time claiming she was in favor of it. What a disgusting woman Ludford is.

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